Cane Corso Forum
General => Introductions => Topic started by: Coffe on November 01, 2006, 10:39:34 AM
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Hi
Im am coffe i live in sweden and i am 34years young :P.
I live with jenny and our 2 cane corsos Dragon and Frost.
i am webmaster of RACC, the swedish cane corso club.
i guess that jenny have writen a log intro so insted of making you read the same things 2 times. just check out her intro :)
We both run the canecorso.se homepage but just now its only in swedish.
i work with homepages. i like to program php/mysql and just stared to play with ajax.
Best Regards
Coffe
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Hi Coffe, welcome also to the forum :)
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thanx :)
I have done a lot of work with pedigree,
made a big system for RACC to handle dogs. and i am hoping to find out som parents to a few dogs that i not have found out by serching on the internet :)
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Welcome on board ;D
Try www.canecorso.animalpedigree.com for those pedigrees. It now has almost 4000 Corso pedigrees in it. I am adding the entire SKK database to this Corso database (just started with that. I had them all in a couple of years ago, but now Sweden has many new Corsos). I noticed that from many dogs I have the ancestors in my database, where the SKK database doesn't have them (yet). At the moment I have all Dutch dogs in it. The entire database from Finland. Now I am working on Sweden. And I have lots of Italian pedigrees in it. And some from all over the world. I am trying to get the databases from all FCI kennelclubs ;D I just hope all kennelclubs will be coorperative enough to provide me with their Corso data.....
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been there done that :P *grin*
if u ask nicly :P i can give u a DB dump with al dogs we have :)
but i have made asystem not using regnr as index :) so i can handle dogs with multiple regnr like lirag/s numbers :)
we have today about 1100 dogs in ours :)
i have been thinging about making a global CC record site :) i have funtions for making pedigrees,inbred% caluclations and so on :) so it can handle records independet of "lokal" regnr :) so one kan be able to find al info about a dog not having to search for mutiple difrent renge depending on country :)
i guess u have looked at raccs page ?
**removed** for a sneak peak :) working on a "client" to make the stress on our webserver/databas smaller:)
would be so nice if SACC would be able to have there records online :) i still hope and its son Xmas :P
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Please :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Nice enough? ;D
My database also does not use the pedigreenumber as index. I have many dogs in it with multiple reg.numbers. My old database, which I still have on my pc did use the reg.numbers as index. Horrible! Italian dogs go from Lir to Loi are sold outside Italy where they again get a new reg.number and I had to add them as new dogs to my database all the time :-\ But that problem is history now. So any dogs that are in my on-line database double, I am now changing so that it is 1 dog but with multiple pedigree numbers.
I do have many more pedigrees in my computer that I still have to add. You can e-mail me the info of the dogs that you are searching for ancestors. I might have the info already. It just takes a lot of time to add everything to that on-line database ::)
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Oh, I forgot to mention. I am adding new dogs almost every day. So if you checked last week, you might want to check it again ;D
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its dogs way back :)
have found a few pages saying who his parents are.
and ifno about his brothers/sisters would be realy nice :)
Birillo
LIRAG95L4953
LOI95L4953
just let me know how u like the datafile to be structured and i kan make a dump of the data :)
BR
Coffe :)
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Birillo has a first generation pedigree. His parents are not on any pedigrees. I got the info from some dogs' ancestors from "reliable" sources. How reliable.......... How reliable are ancestors that are on pedigrees ::)
Birillo has no LOI pedigree. That LOI info probably comes from a Dutch pedigree. Our not so smart Dutch kennelclub used to put LOI in front of every Italian pedigreenumber ::) This is why in my database I have often only xxLxxxx and nothing in front.
An access database file would be great ;D :-*
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If you click on a dog's name in my pedigrees, you will get that dog's pedigree. If you click that name again, you will get more info on that dog like brothers and sisters and all pups ;) You can also calculate the coefficients of inbreeding and view the pedigree in an inbreeding view (like you have with double, triple etc dogs in different colors). I am also adding the breeders and if you click that name you will find a link to their website. But........ I still have to add most of those. That's a lot of work..........
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i know that bout would be nice to know who his parents are :)
i am browsing u page now :)
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If you click on a dog's name in my pedigrees, you will get that dog's pedigree. If you click that name again, you will get more info on that dog like brothers and sisters and all pups ;) You can also calculate the coefficients of inbreeding and view the pedigree in an inbreeding view (like you have with double, triple etc dogs in different colors). I am also adding the breeders and if you click that name you will find a link to their website. But........ I still have to add most of those. That's a lot of work..........
thats how racc works to :) have the same system would be funny to see how u solved the inbreed coefficents. that one took me some time to solve :)
have been using your site to collect info :)
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After struggling with many database systems to get those pedigrees on-line, we decided not to invent the wheel again and use the system that the Dutch Dobermann club created www.animalpedigree.com . It did not take me long before I needed that PRO version. The downside of that is that I pay for the use of their webserver and I can not get to the actual database any more. So I can not send you a database file with all the info that I have :'( But if I run into a problem, they solve it for me. I only have to do what I like most, collect and add pedigrees. All the technical stuff behind the screens is being done for me. ;D
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Okey.
if u ever ran into problems or i starta up a global one :) i will contact u and make u head admin :) becuz my system are fo free :)
this have been a long day
my kids where about to go with bus to me for 1 time. and the weather here today made the journy take 12h.
so after a long w8t and lots of snow ..they are finaly here :) so now i will go to sleep ..
i guess there will be photos up on the dogs in the snow.
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You've got mail ;)
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and u got a reply :P
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Welcome Coffe! :)
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thanx :)
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i work with homepages. i like to program php/mysql and just stared to play with ajax.
That sounds great! Maybe you can help with some stuff for this board if you have some spare time ::)
For the record: I'm not a website designer/programmer but I'm totally into enterprise data networks :)
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sure :) maby add a target="_blank" on the chat button would be nice :)
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I think I would add you to my MSN list. Adding stuff sounds easier then it is for me :P
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plx do :)
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Welcome Uncle Coffe ;D
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hello grandlady :P say hello to grandpa pella :P *grin*
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Hello, Coffe, and wellcome!
I look in pedigree of my corso and he also have BIRILLO in it, but there is only LIR AG 95L4953 write near the name. His parent are BULAN and KIRA. I have only the picture of Bulan.
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hello :) tnx :) thats what have guessed :) would be nice to talk to the breader of birillo and getting it confirmed :)
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Even if you can get a direct confirmation from the breeder, that would not mean everything. Too many pedigrees are not fully correct. Even the ones with registered parents are not always 100% correct. If I use a male from next door and get an owner of a great ch. male to sign my studcard, that ch. male is the father on the pedigree. Only DNA can proof otherwise and even DNA is not always 100% correct, since mutations can and do happen. I know a dog that according to the DNA test is not from his mother or father. Yet he resembles his father very much. And I know 100% sure that he is from that litter. A mutation made the DNA test fail both parents ::)
When I got my Delilah, she was without pedigree. A pedigree was promised to me, but later they just never handed it over. And since she was not tattoed, I think she never had one in the first place. I did not mind that much since it was a not FCI recognized breed. A pedigree would not be valid in Holland anyway. When the breed was recognized several people have offered me Italian pedigrees for her, so that I could breed her. I choose for a first generation pedigree. Since for a short time that was not possible in Italy, I got her a first generation RISH in Belgium. As valid as a first generation Italian LIR. I have been under attack many times for this on public forums. If I would have just gotten a false Italian LIR, no one would have known or attack me. The honest way is not the easiest way ::) And to be completely honest, if I would have this situation again, I might just take the easy way and go for that Italian LIR. This is the way it has been done many many times in the past (and probably still is being done). Just like when a male without pedigree is used on a female with pedigree, the pedigree of another male is used for the pups' pedigrees.
At this moment, I have only 1 dog with a 100% correct pedigree. My Stefany. Mother Delilah (first generation pedigree) father Ciro (also first generation pedigree). I was there when she was made and am 100% sure that the parents on the pedigree are really her parents. She has nothing on the pedigree in the second generation. So I'm 100% sure her pedigree is correct. The others.......... It's a matter of hoping that the pedigrees are correct. But that's something I can never be sure of 100%. I was not there to witness all the matings and to make sure no other males have mated those females during those heatcycles ::)
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Thanks Nancy!
Good explaination, we have dogs in Sweden after Birillo with pedigrees so I can not understand why its important to look for something who didnt exist (spell?) .
Do you maybe have the Hipscore resultsdocument of Ettore? Because the sweden breederclub still think that he not is x-rayed.
If you have can you send it to them.
//Monica
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Ettore is HD B. I do not have a copy of his certificate :-[ I do have a copy of his LOI that includes the S code and the signed SACC stamp with the B. I do not have a scanner that works :-\ I will make a copy later this week and send it to you by post. Then you can send it to SKK. But it's his LOI, not his LIR. I hope Swedish Kennelclub understands that LIR and LOI are from the same dog......
We have simular problems with the Dutch Kennelclub. Yurak is known with his LIR as HD B. But they refuse to put the B on the pedigree if Yurak is on a pedigree with his LOI ::) They refuse to believe it is the same dog. We should do a DNA test to proof that?? Test the blood of the same dog twice to proof he is the same dog?? Kennelclubs are crazy...............